I haven't seen anyone talk about this, and I'm curious to see what people's experiences have been...
Lets assume your running a heroic group. What factors play into your decision to have the group go for / don't go for an achievement?
- You want / don't want it.
- Someone else in the group wants it (Guildmember, Friend, or PuG).
- Someone else's alt wants it.
- Someone else in the group specifically doesn't want to do it.
- What if it raises the chance of wiping considerably?
- Will you wipe if you fail the achievement mid fight, and try again?
- How about if two people have conflicting wants (Culling of Time vs. Zombiefest, Experienced Drake Rider vs. Ruby Void)
When I'm running with guildmates, I typically find myself doing whatever moderate achievement is needed by anyone, assuming we have a reasonable chance with the composition. Even if its the 18th time I've pulled King Dred along with the rest of the raptors. When it comes to harder ones, and someone mentions it - I'm usually game to give it a few tries, but if its proving a wipefest, I may just steamroll a "lets do this some other time".
What I think the key really is, though, is being specific with the intentions of a group when its being formed. I suspect that on more then one occassion, I was "LF1M, DPS, Old Kingdom" in GChat, and got someone who wanted a speed clear, not to wipe on Elder Kitetheguardiansaway a few times while we worked out healing.
Remember Jailbreak runs? Back in Vanilla, you'd see "LF2 DPS, BRD Jailbreak" in Alliance trade chat. The instance itself was huge, but jailbreak was one specifically obnoxiously long, difficult, and loot-less escort quest, which was part of the Ony attunment. It was not something you sprung on people, as the group would typically disolve it it wasn't brought in for that exact purpose.
What I'm advocating - is that you note the intent of the run in your LF info.
LF Healer, Old Kingdom w/ Achievements
LF Tank, Quick Nexus Clear (No Achievements)
LF DPS, Occulus, Ruby Void.
Also, don't fish around for positives regarding need for specific achievements. If your open to achievements, let it be known in the begining that if you want an achievement, put its name in party chat when you get to the boss. There are tons of people who aren't that interested in chasing points, but if asked "anyone need Consumption Junction?" when you are looking at the boss, will respond "I don't have that". Put the inititiave on them.
Anyway - what is your experience with Achievement Etiquette, concerning different groups (all guild, pug, friends, ect) ?
Bans, Warriors, and Pyrolysis
15 hours ago